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Old 11-03-2007, 08:43 PM   #61 (permalink)
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My opinion on the whole thing is performance minded buyers who buy the R18 civic are usually the people who didn't have in their budget to get the Si and make all kinds of excuses except the real one why they didn't get it. Seriously I have seen many people say "well I'll just do a motor swap," or "I'll make it faster than an Si," "or I'll just do a conversion." These people are too impatient to wait to get what they really want and nickel and dime their power (in the mean time power) until they get serious. It's really laughable.
... or maybe someone isnt the only driver of a car and they cant own a car that is M/T?

... or maybe someone lives in an area where having a M/T car is annoying as hell, so decided not to get it?

Dont be so quick to jump to conclusions.
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Old 11-03-2007, 08:53 PM   #62 (permalink)
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... or maybe someone isnt the only driver of a car and they cant own a car that is M/T?

... or maybe someone lives in an area where having a M/T car is annoying as hell, so decided not to get it?

Dont be so quick to jump to conclusions.
What's your excuse for the Manual transmission owner? Why is the buyer too stubborn to learn to operate manual transmission? In my opinion this buyer isn't a performance minded buyer. What about the countless owners who drive in LA traffic. Truth is about that is they spend less than 8% of their driving time in these situations.
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What's your excuse for the Manual transmission owner? Why is the buyer too stubborn to learn to operate manual transmission? In my opinion this buyer isn't a performance minded buyer. What about the countless owners who drive in LA traffic. Truth is about that is they spend less than 8% of their driving time in these situations.
I have no excuse for the M/T owners.

I drive A/T because I have other people that drive my car on a regular basis that cannot drive M/T and IMO, my relationship is more important than driving a M/T car. If the Si was made in A/T, I wouldve bought that... but it isnt.

Regardless, I dont understand why you feel the need to bash someone who is working with what they have.
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Regardless, I dont understand why you feel the need to bash someone who is working with what they have.
I don't. My problem is when they come on the INTERNET peddling their product and looking for a pat on the back or bragging about butt dyno gains.
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I don't. My problem is when they come on the INTERNET peddling their product and looking for a pat on the back or bragging about butt dyno gains.
Is he trying to sell his product? Did he post anything about ACTUAL gains, besides the different sound and 'feel'? Maybe I missed a post somewhere... but if hes not trying to sell, and he says htat thecar 'feels' different... then whats the harm?

Maybe he was looking to see if anyone had suggestions for improvements on what he already has.... after all... thats one thing the internet is great for.
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i totally understand that no one will buy it unless i have dyno sheets to prove any gains
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there is definitely some kind of gain.
Still making butt dyno claims....sickyute claimed the same thing when he added the Injen CAI to his set up until he got onto a dyno.

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so i guess no one would want to buy one of these?
Definitely intent to profit
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Still making butt dyno claims....sickyute claimed the same thing when he added the Injen CAI to his set up until he got onto a dyno.

Intent for financial gain

Definitely intent to profit
I stand corrected...
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