Hesistation on R18 models??

07-30-2006, 09:32 PM

since the day i bought my civic the car has this "bog" as soon
as i hit the pedal. it litterly feels like it gasps for air so i went
and installed a CAI thinkin this may be some of the cause. the
stock airbox made me think this when i saw how it was routed....

from TB it elbowed into the airbox where the filter sits, then from
there it shot down another pipe into the lower section of the front
bumper and into a resonator box then right back up into the engine
bay where it sucked hot air right next to the battery....Lame!

but this wasnt the fix but did increase my HP and flows better now.

anyone?
is this the same thing thats goin on with Si's????

07-30-2006, 09:39 PM

its annoyying as ****....

is it the dbw or somethin unseen?
cuz i had honda look at it, but as usual....nothing when i know its
not right

si_civic · 07-30-2006, 09:54 PM

Si's don't experience this bog. Like I said before, I believe it's the gearing in the base models.

07-30-2006, 09:55 PM

no man...its not a trans/mech issue here.
its somethn else related to the air intake or
maybe,,..dbw

**Silver8th** · 07-30-2006, 10:14 PM

I don't notice any issues like this at all....is your MT or auto?

07-30-2006, 10:15 PM

MT model

**CameronJr9** · 07-30-2006, 10:24 PM

I've got the lag in my auto, but I figured it was just a normal thing that autos had. My Grand Am and Monte Carlo both lagged. My manual '94 Civic didn't have the problem.

It's probably drive by wire then??

07-31-2006, 07:17 AM

hmmm....yea maybe the dbw but i hope honda gets a grip
with this and comes up with a recall for these models.
maybe a free reflash to the ecu to correct it.

cuz like i said, its a gasp of air when you first hit the accelerator
like it chokes for that innitial moment. But once it passes that stage
it then takes off into the RPM range.....

odd?

(SELF EDIT)

This is what I have found re: Hesitation on R18's
http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11794

Gaspar_06_Civic_EX · 07-31-2006, 04:48 PM

I have an AT EX sedan. I dont notice any lag at all. This is with Fujita CAI and Magnaflow Cat.

07-31-2006, 05:44 PM

i dont know if it matters but....

my civic is a DX-G for which i called Honda direct and documented this
problem so if it does come up mine is on a list to get fixed first.

gbae007 · 07-31-2006, 05:46 PM

What you speak of is the DBW (drive by wire) lag.

Unlike the Civics of days past, we have fanciful electronically controlled throttle bodies that improve combustion efficiency but at the expense of the precision throttle response.

This is one of the first things I noticed about my R18 Civic and compared to my Nissan 350z, pissed me off.

**Yodums** · 07-31-2006, 05:53 PM

Holy crap, you went from a 350Z to a R18 Civic? What forced that idea?

gbae007 · 07-31-2006, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yodums

Holy crap, you went from a 350Z to a R18 Civic? What forced that idea?

I have a 60 mile commute. I avoided the Si for that reason.

Back on topic: try this thread for more information on the reflash for solve the DBW lag. (For Si's though.)

http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11747

07-31-2006, 05:59 PM

it is officially documented now along with my service guys car which
is having the same issues!

We need to start calling Honda and bitching to resolve this ASAP

1-888-946-6329 CANADA

Once enough peeps complain the Honda Tech team goes to town!!

NeverNZ · 08-01-2006, 11:38 AM

mine lags also, it bogs like there isnt enough power to move the car, then the car just kinda bursts forwards, it only happens in 1st gear for me, and usually when starting between 1000-1500rpm

psyshack · 08-01-2006, 11:46 AM

Mine has a bog when pulling away from a light. I just wrote it off to no torque. My Ranger does the same thing and it has a throttle cable. Both are 5 MT's

stock_07 · 08-04-2007, 11:34 AM

I know this post is old but i have the same problem with my 2007 civic dx. Have you guys heard anything to solve this issue???

06CivEXJon · 08-04-2007, 09:40 PM

My EX has the DBW lag hesitation and i hate it! the civics all have DBW lag every single one of the civics do.

si_civic · 08-04-2007, 11:08 PM

Apparently there is a reflash available (according to the OP).

But, ya holy credence clearwater revival thread batman.

90and90 · 08-05-2007, 05:00 PM

Could be DBW, Vtec kicking in, letting out the clutch too soon... is this your first import?? they really dont pull untill you get into higher rpm's...
<p><p> ps. some shitt y cold air intakes will cause this problem, do you have a cel on by any chance?

07-30-2006, 09:32 PM	#1 (permalink)
Torredo Guest Posts: n/a iTrader: / %	Hesistation on R18 models?? since the day i bought my civic the car has this "bog" as soon as i hit the pedal. it litterly feels like it gasps for air so i went and installed a CAI thinkin this may be some of the cause. the stock airbox made me think this when i saw how it was routed.... from TB it elbowed into the airbox where the filter sits, then from there it shot down another pipe into the lower section of the front bumper and into a resonator box then right back up into the engine bay where it sucked hot air right next to the battery....Lame! but this wasnt the fix but did increase my HP and flows better now. anyone? is this the same thing thats goin on with Si's????

07-30-2006, 10:14 PM	#5 (permalink)
Silver8th Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: GA Posts: 7,052 iTrader: 4 / 100%	I don't notice any issues like this at all....is your MT or auto? __________________ 8thCivic.com Conquers the Dragon IV September 10-12, 2009

07-30-2006, 10:24 PM	#7 (permalink)
CameronJr9 Crazy Yellow Puppet Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Louisville, KY Age: 29 Posts: 26,810 Back and Forth Forever iTrader: 7 / 100%	I've got the lag in my auto, but I figured it was just a normal thing that autos had. My Grand Am and Monte Carlo both lagged. My manual '94 Civic didn't have the problem. It's probably drive by wire then?? __________________

07-31-2006, 07:17 AM	#8 (permalink)
Torredo Guest Posts: n/a iTrader: / %	hmmm....yea maybe the dbw but i hope honda gets a grip with this and comes up with a recall for these models. maybe a free reflash to the ecu to correct it. cuz like i said, its a gasp of air when you first hit the accelerator like it chokes for that innitial moment. But once it passes that stage it then takes off into the RPM range..... odd? (SELF EDIT) This is what I have found re: Hesitation on R18's http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11794 Last edited by Torredo; 07-31-2006 at 06:49 PM.

07-31-2006, 05:53 PM	#12 (permalink)
Yodums Scrodums Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 8,923 The Stig iTrader: 10 / 100%	Holy crap, you went from a 350Z to a R18 Civic? What forced that idea? __________________ 2007 Taffeta White Civic Si Coupe

07-30-2006, 09:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
Torredo Guest Posts: n/a iTrader: / %	its annoyying as ****.... is it the dbw or somethin unseen? cuz i had honda look at it, but as usual....nothing when i know its not right

07-30-2006, 09:54 PM	#3 (permalink)
si_civic Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: B.C. ,Canada Age: 31 Posts: 4,610 A/Cst.D.F.Abate iTrader: 10 / 100%	Si's don't experience this bog. Like I said before, I believe it's the gearing in the base models.

07-30-2006, 09:55 PM	#4 (permalink)
Torredo Guest Posts: n/a iTrader: / %	no man...its not a trans/mech issue here. its somethn else related to the air intake or maybe,,..dbw

07-30-2006, 10:15 PM	#6 (permalink)
Torredo Guest Posts: n/a iTrader: / %	MT model

07-31-2006, 04:48 PM	#9 (permalink)
Gaspar_06_Civic_EX Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Mass Age: 35 Posts: 1,173 Shawn iTrader: 0 / 0%	I have an AT EX sedan. I dont notice any lag at all. This is with Fujita CAI and Magnaflow Cat.

07-31-2006, 05:44 PM	#10 (permalink)
Torredo Guest Posts: n/a iTrader: / %	i dont know if it matters but.... my civic is a DX-G for which i called Honda direct and documented this problem so if it does come up mine is on a list to get fixed first.

07-31-2006, 05:46 PM	#11 (permalink)
gbae007 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 28 Posts: 878 iTrader: 0 / 0%	What you speak of is the DBW (drive by wire) lag. Unlike the Civics of days past, we have fanciful electronically controlled throttle bodies that improve combustion efficiency but at the expense of the precision throttle response. This is one of the first things I noticed about my R18 Civic and compared to my Nissan 350z, pissed me off.

07-31-2006, 05:59 PM	#14 (permalink)
Torredo Guest Posts: n/a iTrader: / %	it is officially documented now along with my service guys car which is having the same issues! We need to start calling Honda and bitching to resolve this ASAP 1-888-946-6329 CANADA Once enough peeps complain the Honda Tech team goes to town!!

08-01-2006, 11:38 AM	#15 (permalink)
NeverNZ Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NJ Age: 25 Posts: 35 iTrader: 0 / 0%	mine lags also, it bogs like there isnt enough power to move the car, then the car just kinda bursts forwards, it only happens in 1st gear for me, and usually when starting between 1000-1500rpm

08-01-2006, 11:46 AM	#16 (permalink)
psyshack Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Okmulgee, Oklahoma Age: 48 Posts: 733 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Mine has a bog when pulling away from a light. I just wrote it off to no torque. My Ranger does the same thing and it has a throttle cable. Both are 5 MT's

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