HELP!!! Camber problem with Si suspension on LX

aircuellar · 09-20-2006, 09:41 AM

I installed the 06 Si suspension on an 06 LX and everything was great untill I noticed the back tires looking wierd. I took the car to get aligned and they said the camber for the rear tires were way off. The best they could get it was 2.0 left and 2.3 Right which is way off. This shocked me because everyone here on these forums said that you would not need a camber kit for the Si suspension or HFP suspension because it was made for the car. The HFP suspension install instructions are the exact same for the Si and LX. I double checked to make sure the upper arms were the same part # as the Si and they are so I don't see why I would need a Camber kit to fix this horrible problem. The worse part is this is my wifes and she never wanted me to modify our cars again because of this reason. That is why I bought the Si suspension, so I didn't have any problems with it. I am in the Army and here I am with a problem I can't afford. Someone please help!

CoryB · 09-20-2006, 12:26 PM

Those should probably be negative values, right?

That's pretty much where my stock Si rear camber is set. I've got -2.0 on the left rear and -2.375 on the right rear and the only change I've made to the suspension is Honda camber-adjuster bolts in the front.

Make sure the toe-in is set correctly for the rear - that's the only adjustment that can be made.

honda93 · 09-20-2006, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by aircuellar

I installed the 06 Si suspension on an 06 LX and everything was great untill I noticed the back tires looking wierd. I took the car to get aligned and they said the camber for the rear tires were way off. The best they could get it was 2.0 left and 2.3 Right which is way off. This shocked me because everyone here on these forums said that you would not need a camber kit for the Si suspension or HFP suspension because it was made for the car. The HFP suspension install instructions are the exact same for the Si and LX. I double checked to make sure the upper arms were the same part # as the Si and they are so I don't see why I would need a Camber kit to fix this horrible problem. The worse part is this is my wifes and she never wanted me to modify our cars again because of this reason. That is why I bought the Si suspension, so I didn't have any problems with it. I am in the Army and here I am with a problem I can't afford. Someone please help!

OK, just relax.

Although the rear camber numbers aren't ideal for FWD cars, they aren't poor or dangerous; the camber settings on my Civic are in the high 1's (-1.7, -1.8). Besides, toe settings wear a tire moreso than camber.

Anthony "Mario" Crea
NNJR-SCCA

aircuellar · 09-20-2006, 04:23 PM

yes negative numbers and that is what you have on your civic stock?

honda93 · 09-20-2006, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by aircuellar

yes negative numbers and that is what you have on your civic stock?

http://www.jackit.com/bushings/image...anation_sm.jpg

Negative camber is better in all aspects than positive camber. The pic is poor, but it will explain all you need to know.

2RotorMotor · 09-22-2006, 09:53 AM

My si has neg camber since I picked up the car, I never worried because I just thought it was how it is...

kenchan · 09-22-2006, 02:50 PM

i dont foresee myself getting a camber kit just for -2 camber on the rear...
especially since mine's only a daily driven car.

can use the added neg camber for insurance during turns, i suppose.

dtexan · 09-24-2006, 04:37 AM

just rotate your tires regularlly and you should be fine

pengful · 09-24-2006, 06:25 AM

My rears are -1 deg 30 mins left and -1 deg 25 mins right completely stock. I agree -2+ for both rears are way off. Then again, why would the SI suspensions cause this drastic cambering?

caveman74 · 09-24-2006, 09:00 PM

All of the 06' Coupes have NEG camber in the back. They are actually really slanted.

kenchan · 09-25-2006, 10:41 AM

a lot of cars with similar sus geometry have the neg camber in the back.
not similar, but even the new 3-series, also my G35C... lots of neg camber.

now you can reduce it by adding camber rods, etc, but -2 is really
not that big of a deal unless you're dialing in a particular setup for autox
where you need more turnability.

if you're just going for looks, some people say neg camber is nice... some
say it's rice. depends on your preference.

09-20-2006, 09:41 AM	#1 (permalink)
aircuellar Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 22 iTrader: 0 / 0%	HELP!!! Camber problem with Si suspension on LX I installed the 06 Si suspension on an 06 LX and everything was great untill I noticed the back tires looking wierd. I took the car to get aligned and they said the camber for the rear tires were way off. The best they could get it was 2.0 left and 2.3 Right which is way off. This shocked me because everyone here on these forums said that you would not need a camber kit for the Si suspension or HFP suspension because it was made for the car. The HFP suspension install instructions are the exact same for the Si and LX. I double checked to make sure the upper arms were the same part # as the Si and they are so I don't see why I would need a Camber kit to fix this horrible problem. The worse part is this is my wifes and she never wanted me to modify our cars again because of this reason. That is why I bought the Si suspension, so I didn't have any problems with it. I am in the Army and here I am with a problem I can't afford. Someone please help!

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09-20-2006, 12:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
CoryB Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chester Virginia Age: 50 Posts: 370 Cory iTrader: 0 / 0%	Those should probably be negative values, right? That's pretty much where my stock Si rear camber is set. I've got -2.0 on the left rear and -2.375 on the right rear and the only change I've made to the suspension is Honda camber-adjuster bolts in the front. Make sure the toe-in is set correctly for the rear - that's the only adjustment that can be made.

09-20-2006, 04:23 PM	#4 (permalink)
aircuellar Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 22 iTrader: 0 / 0%	yes negative numbers and that is what you have on your civic stock?

09-22-2006, 09:53 AM	#6 (permalink)
2RotorMotor Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,904 iTrader: 0 / 0%	My si has neg camber since I picked up the car, I never worried because I just thought it was how it is...

09-22-2006, 02:50 PM	#7 (permalink)
kenchan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Midwest Posts: 2,625 iTrader: 1 / 100%	i dont foresee myself getting a camber kit just for -2 camber on the rear... especially since mine's only a daily driven car. can use the added neg camber for insurance during turns, i suppose.

09-24-2006, 04:37 AM	#8 (permalink)
dtexan Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 670 iTrader: 1 / 100%	just rotate your tires regularlly and you should be fine

09-24-2006, 06:25 AM	#9 (permalink)
pengful Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Singapore Posts: 305 iTrader: 0 / 0%	My rears are -1 deg 30 mins left and -1 deg 25 mins right completely stock. I agree -2+ for both rears are way off. Then again, why would the SI suspensions cause this drastic cambering?

09-24-2006, 09:00 PM	#10 (permalink)
caveman74 Senior Member Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Woodstock, Ga Posts: 2,384 Kevin iTrader: 19 / 100%	All of the 06' Coupes have NEG camber in the back. They are actually really slanted.

09-25-2006, 10:41 AM	#11 (permalink)
kenchan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Midwest Posts: 2,625 iTrader: 1 / 100%	a lot of cars with similar sus geometry have the neg camber in the back. not similar, but even the new 3-series, also my G35C... lots of neg camber. now you can reduce it by adding camber rods, etc, but -2 is really not that big of a deal unless you're dialing in a particular setup for autox where you need more turnability. if you're just going for looks, some people say neg camber is nice... some say it's rice. depends on your preference.